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    Time ago I received two samples of goat musk from Gayla of the Always Enough Ranch in California where she breeds goats. She wrote:
    “ I know they have musk glands behind their horns, but I believe they exude musk through their urine too. They pee on their faces to perfume themselves. And on their legs, and on their bellies….And every inch gets somehow perfumed.”
    She collected the perfume very simply rubbing the goat in the two places mentioned with cotton wool.
    After tincturing I can see a huge difference between the two. The substance collected from the head has the typical smell of goat and goat cheese while the hind leg substance is very much more like muskdeer, a very sexual smell almost without the goat smell.
    In fact most mammals spread their pheromones through the urine because very few possess a specific organ to produce them like beaver or civet. The heavy non flying and often non smelling primary pheromone molecules are digested and tailored by the bacteria of the skin and take their smell and assume their pheromonal function only after this process (it consists in separating the acids from the proteins to which they are bound at the time of their production. Like human armpits sweat. In this process the hair is very important and this is the real reason for their presence in these parts of our body. They increase the living space of the micro-organisms and the evaporating surface of the smell. Shaving armpits hairs drastically reduce the efficiency of the “armpit organ.
    The use of perfumes is common to all civilisations. It has the aim to eliminate body smells (because they are bactericide) but also to “spiritualize” the proper individual animal scent which remains anyway. An other instrument that is common to many civilisations is the shavig of armpit and pubic hair, practice to our days in the whole of Africa, in all the muslim world and in the Hebrew culture.
    To come to a conclusion it seems strange that on one side the civilized person washes away his animal scent but prefers perfumes that contains Castoreum or Civet as an endeavours to appropriate an animal scent. I still conclude that it is a question of vital force that all natural aromatic molecules contain (in Arabic the essence is called Ruh; spirit of the plant). So that in the search of the vital energy present in the perfume, we prefer those who contain botanical and animal spirits.
    Abdes salaam Attar
    Kodo, La Via del Profumo
    http://www.profumo.it

    AbdesSalaam Attar
    Compositore Profumiere

    Scritto Da – Salaam Attar il 16 Settembre 2006alle ore 22:18:51

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    FrankieCee
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    Your’s is a very interesting expose’ concerning the Goat musk. Perhaps there is a renewable source for this pheromone after all. As long as we continue to have people who are brave enough to retrieve the substance, lol. Do you believe this substance to have the potential for use as an alternative to the original source? I find it interesting that the Goat musk is similar in nature as far as aroma characteristics are concerned. I would have never even imagined that such things were possible. I guess if we open our minds, we may learn something new, everyday. Thanks for the interesting perspective. Frank

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    The results from the use of goat hair tincture in perfumery are encouraging, you can see the reviews of Anya’s perfume “Pan” from her blog
    //anyasgarden.blogspot.com/2008/07/getting-your-goat-perfume-musk-that-is.html

    AbdesSalaam Attar
    Compositore Profumiere

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    NyAshia
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    Very interesting, thank you.

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